d.sides Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I have heard it said often how much steel varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. A friend ordered from Speedymetals.com and as I am working on getting the shiny under 5 minutes I had him grab 10 for me. Wrapped one up last night and 20 minutes later its at 90 degrees and I am dead. Today I did a FBBC shiny in 5:15 . I have 1 left. Can there really be this much variation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuc Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) It may also depend on other variables; how well your body recovered from last training, how you feel, how much energy you have left, ... But yes, steel sometimes varies a lot. Edit: also look at the mental side; you failed last time, so your mind is more eager to smoke it, making it 'easier'. Edited March 18, 2009 by luuc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 There really can be that much variation in certain suppliers of stainless. K&S Engineering stainless is about as hard as you'll find anywhere. SpeedyMetals is pretty hard too. All is listed as 303 though. I still believe that overall, stainless is much more consistent than most grades of steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Make no mistake, there really is that much variation and more. The best example I can give is for 303 stainless. I have bent stainless from a few different sources and I actually find the FBBC stuff to be easier than most others. I bought some 303 from a hardware store and it was super tough and super springy compared to the actual Shinys. And then there is Tim I's stainless. Holy cow. I've said before that it is bat-shit crazy tough, I still haven't finished a piece of it. I don't know where he gets it but someone else alluded to Fastenal stainless being extremely tough too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.sides Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 I have Fsatenals stuff and I can get it shut also. This stuff is a B**** though. I will have to finish a piece just to say I did it I guess, then I will send some around. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The Fastenal 304 stainless (assuming it's marked correctly) I have is harder than an FBBC shiny. I believe National 5/16" CRS calibrated at 385 lbs. compared to 515 lbs. for FBBC's hardest batch of bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalstrength Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I have Fsatenals stuff and I can get it shut also. This stuff is a B**** though. I will have to finish a piece just to say I did it I guess, then I will send some around.Thanks Fastenal is MUCH harder than FBBC stainless, even though its marked as 304. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim71 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The Fastenal 304 stainless (assuming it's marked correctly) I have is harder than an FBBC shiny.I believe National 5/16" CRS calibrated at 385 lbs. compared to 515 lbs. for FBBC's hardest batch of bastards. The National I sent Eric long ago only hit 330 lbs. The Steel works hit 380 in both hot and cold rolled. CRS varies ALOT. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Doug , i brought some 7 mm ss (shiny have almost 1 cm more!!), its very close to the Shiny ... just ask Darin and Perry ...both tried it. the 8mm ss i brought (never tried) should be like a nightmare. want some Doug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The National I sent Eric long ago only hit 330 lbs. The Steel works hit 380 in both hot and cold rolled. CRS varies ALOT.Tim That must be what I'm thinking of. National CRS felt like a straw even compared to the old easy bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I just attempted another piece of Tim's stainless. It reminded me of an Edgin until the crush, the crush is still immense on this stuff for me even now. The only thing I've ever felt spring more than Tim's stainless is Grade 5 Titanium. Seriously Tim, that stainless of your's has some Ti in it's blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCrush Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Fastenals 11/32 and 3/8 0-1 drillrod is much easier than SpeedyMetals 0-1 drillrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.sides Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 I did some 8mm 0-1 drillrod from Fasstenal that wasnt bad. The 9mm stops me every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yohechris Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Anyone have an idea how Fastenal CRS compares FBBC CRS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The National I sent Eric long ago only hit 330 lbs. The Steel works hit 380 in both hot and cold rolled. CRS varies ALOT.Tim That must be what I'm thinking of. National CRS felt like a straw even compared to the old easy bastards. I just bought some Steelworks 1/4" hot and cold rolled and they feel virtually the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Anyone have an idea how Fastenal CRS compares FBBC CRS? I don't, but I'd be glad to do a comparison next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyj75 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Make no mistake, there really is that much variation and more. The best example I can give is for 303 stainless. I have bent stainless from a few different sources and I actually find the FBBC stuff to be easier than most others. I bought some 303 from a hardware store and it was super tough and super springy compared to the actual Shinys. And then there is Tim I's stainless. Holy cow. I've said before that it is bat-shit crazy tough, I still haven't finished a piece of it. I don't know where he gets it but someone else alluded to Fastenal stainless being extremely tough too. I believe Tim I said he got that 303 from Alro Steel. That's the same supplier I had up around Akron when I lived there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Make no mistake, there really is that much variation and more. The best example I can give is for 303 stainless. I have bent stainless from a few different sources and I actually find the FBBC stuff to be easier than most others. I bought some 303 from a hardware store and it was super tough and super springy compared to the actual Shinys. And then there is Tim I's stainless. Holy cow. I've said before that it is bat-shit crazy tough, I still haven't finished a piece of it. I don't know where he gets it but someone else alluded to Fastenal stainless being extremely tough too. I believe Tim I said he got that 303 from Alro Steel. That's the same supplier I had up around Akron when I lived there. I'll have to give Alro a call then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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