JoeGrip Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 My 10lb axe is 33 5/8" bottom head bottom handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 BTW, I just want to say "Congratulations" to Bob Lipinski. I don't think I've yet said to you what a great job you do on your levers. I mean, 21.5 lb strict lever to the face is mighty incredible. Now that I've been testing the waters, I think that's almost like closing a #4 or squatting 900 lbs. Just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thanks! Actually, there are probably a few people around capable of doing what I can. Jim Wylie, Nick McKinless, Dave Horne, and Dave Morton just to name a few. Here is my best effort with 21. I thought my arm was flat on the platform but it wasn't- Harder to do when you are kneeling. It's pretty strict anyway: http://media.putfile.com/hammerstill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 That is pretty frigging cool. Wish I could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGrip Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Thats too cool. Bob didnt you have a vid of non strict 34 or so a while back? Ive never even seen a 21 pound sledge, where did you get it? Ive only got to play w/ 16lber at work one time and couldnt anything w/ it, seeing you do that w/ 21 is borderline insane . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Bob, that form is tight, bro! -Jedd- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Thanks guys. That is a 20 sledge with a 1.25 magnet weight added on. I did 30 in loose form with my hand choked up quite a bit on the handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN PRAYDIS Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I've been asked to look at this a little further by Telegraph Key. There seems to be little interest at this time, but that could change down the line. I guess we need to figure out the rules. I will go ahead and start this conversation going. Here's how I see it. Handle Length There has to be a minimum length from the base of the handle to the end of the handle touching the head of the hammer. Perhaps pick a round number, like 30 inches. I think i read earlier on that 31 inches is the standard. if that is so, then we can use that. If your handle is shorter than the standard we decide on, then you are SOL. If it's longer than that, so be it. Proof Video is the way to go. The video has to get in close to show the grip on the handle, so that it is plain that the dude is not cheating and leaving a 1/4 inch out of his hand. Then the video must widen out showing the entire range of motion from vertical, down to the ear level, and back up. Grip Positioning Again video must show that the handle is all the way in the hand. Strictness Hammer starts straight up. Hammer is lowered to top-of-head level. Hammer is brought back to vertical with no use of the head or neck, only wrist strength. Apparatus can't shift to allow for momentum, etc. The only way to maintain strict levering is to use some sort of structure to rest the arm on. This could include a squat bar, smith machine, yoke, or something similar, as long as it is sturdy. The shoulder (posterior deltoid) area must stay in contact with the apparatus. Believe me, I've judged levering before and it is a pain in the ass. There are tons of variables, many of which I did not realize, until I saw them in action. But I guess you can't call something that hasn'tbeen established, so let's decide all this ahead of time. Divisions 8, 10, 12, 16 and 20 pound hammers are plentiful. Not sure on other sizes. My guess is that most people won't need a 20 something hammer when levering it on an apparatus. Judging It can be like the Mash Monster. The athlete shoots the video and posts it himself then contacts me via email (jedd.diesel@gmail.com). I will contact two other judges. The way judges will qualify can be determined later. 2 out of 3 lights and you get it. Anything else that needs to be covered? Let me know what you think on this, everybody. Response to this thread from here on will give a good indication of interest, and whether I will make the record thread for levering. -Jedd- so we are going with 31 inch handle from the very end. to the bottom of the sledge head so if you count the head it will be a total of around 33 inches for a 10lb der and the bigger ones would be more? im just checking i have them from 31 inches to 34 inches to the bottom and want to make them the same thanks to who ever rings in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave22 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Also can we use wrist waps. Remember Slim almost always used wraps on his wrist from the pics that I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I have just lever in the looser fashion (although it was a strict lever) 20lb with my right hand and 16lb lefty to the head. It even touch my head. I think i have good genetics for levering since it has passed about 1,5 months since i start training with sledgehammers. Although my strength is growing I always try to lower my ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think it´s very weird but last week i could manage to do a 16lb lever and now 7 days later i can do it with 20lb. Can anyone explain me this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinia Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 <3 sledge levering. only done a 8lb yet. have to dominate it before i try anything harder :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Tomorrow i will hopefully post a 22,5lb "free hand" lever since iam progressing incredibly fast. Thank to God for all this. So let´s see how it goes for me tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Tomorrow i will hopefully post a 22,5lb "free hand" lever since iam progressing incredibly fast.Thank to God for all this. So let´s see how it goes for me tomorrow. That's crazy progress. How often do you train with sledges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Tomorrow i will hopefully post a 22,5lb "free hand" lever since iam progressing incredibly fast. Thank to God for all this. So let´s see how it goes for me tomorrow. That's crazy progress. How often do you train with sledges? About 3 times a week, i have the video of the 22,5 sledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Here´s the video: http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?act=mod...si&img=4753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGrip Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Just curious, whats the handle like on yalls sledges? All I have is an old 12lb axe from the 70's and the handle is all weird, cury and flat like. I got the opurtunity to try a 16lb sledge at work the other day and the handle was basicly a semicircle w/ the same diameter all the way down and it really felt alot easier to hold on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Just curious, whats the handle like on yalls sledges? All I have is an old 12lb axe from the 70's and the handle is all weird, cury and flat like. I got the opurtunity to try a 16lb sledge at work the other day and the handle was basicly a semicircle w/ the same diameter all the way down and it really felt alot easier to hold on to. My handles are between a 0 and a O. That kind of shapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 so we are going with 31 inch handle from the very end. to the bottom of the sledge head so if you count the head it will be a total of around 33 inches for a 10lb der and the bigger ones would be more? im just checking i have them from 31 inches to 34 inches to the bottom and want to make them the same thanks to who ever rings in 31" total handle length -- from bottom of the handle to bottom of the weight. Every single sledge I've seen in a store is like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 I think it´s very weird but last week i could manage to do a 16lb lever and now 7 days later i can do it with 20lb. Can anyone explain me this? Steroids? No, seriously, that is kick-ass. Congratulations. When I did 16 lbs last week, it was with worse form than your 18.6 lb video. If you're doing 20+ lbs you're definitely doing more than me. Still, not to be an a-hole, but watching JAD (Josh?) & Bob Lipinski's levers, where they don't even move their arms, with 20+ lbs, is just amazing. I couldn't even do 11 lbs strict the other day. Argh. I think I might get some utility out of using the "Cheat" principle & just working on the 16 lb. in "any-way-at-all" fashion, for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 Here´s the video:http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?act=mod...si&img=4753 Dude, that is a real big lift. Looked better than the 18.6 one. But remember, if we EVER get a Gripboard records thread created for sledging, the levers are going to have to be performed in a considerably more strict manner. Scroll back up (or maybe on the previous page) and read the Rules suggested by Jedd. The form will have to be, the arm is resting flat on something, the arm doesn't move, etc. But if that really was 20-22 lbs (can't remember which) you look like you could do 16 lbs strict form, pretty easy. Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Here´s the video: http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?act=mod...si&img=4753 Dude, that is a real big lift. Looked better than the 18.6 one. But remember, if we EVER get a Gripboard records thread created for sledging, the levers are going to have to be performed in a considerably more strict manner. Scroll back up (or maybe on the previous page) and read the Rules suggested by Jedd. The form will have to be, the arm is resting flat on something, the arm doesn't move, etc. But if that really was 20-22 lbs (can't remember which) you look like you could do 16 lbs strict form, pretty easy. Great job! Thanks Jim, Now i can do 20lb in the "free hand" strict with my right hand, refering to the strict lever as Bob does i never done it, i think iam going to try it next time I practice with hammers. I do levers in the free handed fashion because i like it more, but the other way is harder, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripuru Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 (edited) As far as i know if we get a Gripboard records thread created for sledging i think Dave Morton has to be in the highest rank as he did a 25lbs+ with a 31" sledge on a contest rig. He is a beast, the best in grippers, one of the best at bending and the best at levering in the board. My opinion. Edited August 7, 2006 by gripuru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 What happened to this idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelegraphKey Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 The right people don't like it enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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